Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/25/2004 01:45 PM Senate TRA

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        HB 93 - BOATING SAFETY, REGISTRATION, NUMBERING                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The committee took up HB 93.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE WEYHRAUCH, sponsor  of HB 93, testified that                                                               
the original bill passed in 2000  and had sunset dates that would                                                               
take effect this year unless  extended.  This effort captures the                                                               
federal marine  highway funds,  has a  positive fiscal  impact to                                                               
the state,  and more importantly  was implemented in  attempts to                                                               
save  lives  in Alaska  through  the  Kids Don't  Float  program,                                                               
educating the  public about the  benefits of boating  safety, and                                                               
putting  the regulatory  registration scheme  under state  rather                                                               
than  federal  authority.   Concerns  were  raised  by  different                                                               
entities in the  House concerning registering one  kind of vessel                                                               
as opposed to another.   Through the [House Finance Committee], a                                                               
sunset date was added to  address whether those concerns would be                                                               
perceived as problems in the future.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COWDERY informed  members that Amendment 1  was from the                                                               
[Alaska]  Outdoor  Council,  and  Amendment 2  was  from  Senator                                                               
Olson.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT recalled that HB  108 had passed and there had                                                               
been  talk about  repealer  or sunset  clauses  if federal  funds                                                               
weren't   forthcoming;  he   asked  if   those  funds   had  been                                                               
forthcoming.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WEYHRAUCH said  he understood  that yes,  federal                                                               
funds have  been forthcoming.   He reported  that when HB  93 was                                                               
introduced, it  had been  demonstrated to save  lives and  so the                                                               
continuation of  the program  in the state  is important.   Also,                                                               
this provided for  an important educational effort  - under state                                                               
rather  than  the  federal  jurisdiction   -  and  if  the  state                                                               
discontinues this, the federal government  will do something less                                                               
desirable.   Lastly,  HB  93 provides  the  mechanism to  receive                                                               
federal funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  read  from   the  sectional  analysis,  "The                                                               
provisions  found  in sections  3,  5,  ... are  minimal  boating                                                               
safety  provisions  that  not  only fall  short  of  the  federal                                                               
guidelines  ..." and  asked if  those sections  pertained to  the                                                               
previous legislation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WEYHRAUCH replied this was correct.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONNY OLSON asked about floatplanes.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WEYHRAUCH  responded this wasn't considered  to be                                                               
a boat.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON asked  if there was a  distinction between internal                                                               
combustion  engines  on  motorized   watercrafts  as  opposed  to                                                               
electric motors  - such  as a  smaller two-horse  - and  asked if                                                               
these were also covered under this legislation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WEYHRAUCH  said he wasn't sure  but suggested this                                                               
pertained  to motor  fuel and  fuel tax;  he maintained  that the                                                               
[U.S. Coast  Guard] "Coast  Guard" was  available to  address the                                                               
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LINDA SYLVESTER, Staff to  Representative Weyhrauch, told members                                                               
that "[mechanical] propulsion" is delineated.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON asked  if any exemptions were  involved for crafts,                                                               
electric or not, and whether or not a fuel tax is paid.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   WEYHRAUCH   said    with   the   definition   of                                                               
[mechanical] propulsion, an  electric motor would be  in the same                                                               
category as a gas motor.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON  mentioned  that recreational  vehicles,  such  as                                                               
mini-subs,  are  gaining  in popularity  throughout  Alaska,  and                                                               
asked if these were exempt.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WEYHRAUCH  mentioned that he  saw one in  Auke Bay                                                               
with a sticker on it; he deferred to the Coast Guard.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SUE HARGIS,  a  boating safety  specialist  with the  United                                                               
States   Coast  Guard   (USCG),   responded  that   "[mechanical]                                                               
propulsion"  indicates that  any kind  of machinery  propulsion -                                                               
whether it's  electric or gas or  any kind of fuel,  would not be                                                               
exempt. If a boat is  equipped with machinery propulsion, even if                                                               
the  engine isn't  functioning,  then  registration is  required.                                                               
Underwater subs  are boats.   Floatplanes,  when not  operated on                                                               
the water, are considered as  aircrafts, and are regulated by the                                                               
FAA.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMANDER MIKE  KENDALL, Chief  of the  Search and  Rescue Branch                                                               
           th                                                                                                                   
for the  17  Coast Guard  District in Alaska, read  the following                                                               
testimony:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           When the Alaska Boating Safety Act was signed                                                                        
     into law in  May 2000, Alaska became the  last state to                                                                    
     establish  a boating  safety program  joining us  as an                                                                    
     ally  in the  effort to  address Alaska's  high boating                                                                    
     fatality  rate.   A sunset  provision  was included  to                                                                    
     address  concerns  about   the  continuity  of  federal                                                                    
     funding, since the Wallop-Breaux  trust fund was up for                                                                    
     re-authorization  at  that  time. Federal  funding  has                                                                    
     been  re-authorized, and  legislation currently  before                                                                    
     Congress will  actually increase funding to  the states                                                                    
     for  boating safety,  due  to a  shift  in the  Wallop-                                                                    
     Breaux distribution formula.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          Just as important as secure funding, is that the                                                                      
     establishment  of a  state  boating  safety program  in                                                                    
     Alaska has brought an increased  focus and awareness of                                                                    
     boating safety, and  has saved lives of  Alaskans.  The                                                                    
     Alaska   Boating  Safety   Program  supports   valuable                                                                    
     programs such  as Kids  Don't Float,  which is  a clear                                                                    
     winner.   The Kids  Don't Float  program has  saved the                                                                    
     lives of at least nine  children since the start of the                                                                    
     program, and  just reached the level  of 387 lifejacket                                                                    
     loaner sites  in more  than 140  communities throughout                                                                    
     the state.  This program  started in Alaska, and is now                                                                    
     a model  for other  states.  Particularly  important is                                                                    
     that  sites are  located in  virtually every  region of                                                                    
     the  state, and  predominate  in areas  such as  inland                                                                    
     lakes  and  rivers  where  there   is  no  Coast  Guard                                                                    
     presence.                                                                                                                  
          Many more Alaskans have received boating safety                                                                       
     education,  due to  the  increased  partnership of  the                                                                    
     Alaska   Boating  Safety   Program,  the   Coast  Guard                                                                    
     Auxiliary,  and  the  Alaska  Marine  Safety  Education                                                                    
     Association  (AMSEA).   Education efforts  have reached                                                                    
     more  than 40,000  students, primarily  children, since                                                                    
     state  efforts  began.     The  Alaska  Boating  Safety                                                                    
     Program  alone  has  reached  nearly  12,000  of  these                                                                    
     students.   In  comparison, the  Coast Guard  Auxiliary                                                                    
     was  able to  reach  only 3,000  students  in the  same                                                                    
     period.   Innovative programs include a  peer education                                                                    
     program, where  rangers and other educators  train high                                                                    
     school  students to  teach elementary  school students.                                                                    
     This means that  15 to 17 year-old  'high risk' boaters                                                                    
     must internalize  safety messages,  and be  role models                                                                    
     in order to teach younger children.                                                                                        
          Some people have asked, 'Why would the state of                                                                       
     Alaska do this  mission, since we have  the Coast Guard                                                                    
     in  Alaska?    Isn't  this  really  the  Coast  Guard's                                                                    
     mission?'   Let  me  answer that.    In 1971,  Congress                                                                    
     transferred  responsibility  for   the  boating  safety                                                                    
     mission from the Coast Guard  to the states, due to the                                                                    
     fact that  boating safety is  much better  regulated at                                                                    
     the  state   level.    A   'one-size-fits-all'  federal                                                                    
     approach doesn't  fit boating safety very  well, due to                                                                    
     vast differences  in ways and  reasons that  people use                                                                    
     boats, as  well as  extremes of  operating environments                                                                    
     around the nation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:58 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          At that time, the Coast Guard's involvement in                                                                        
     boating  safety  became   primarily  one  of  response,                                                                    
     through search  and rescue.  This  doesn't benefit most                                                                    
     Alaskans,  since   many  boating  accidents   occur  on                                                                    
     interior rivers and lakes, or  in areas without a Coast                                                                    
     Guard  presence.   Although we  are fully  committed to                                                                    
     partnering with  the state  in boating  safety efforts,                                                                    
     we need  Alaska's continued involvement  to be  able to                                                                    
     have  a significant  impact on  Alaska's  high rate  of                                                                    
     boating fatalities.                                                                                                        
          Since passage of Alaska's Boating Safety Act,                                                                         
     events  have dramatically  changed  the  course of  our                                                                    
     nation.   The Coast  Guard has  been given  new tasking                                                                    
     that has  significantly reduced  our ability  to engage                                                                    
     in  non-essential missions.    Here in  Alaska, we  are                                                                    
     fully  engaged in  escorting cruise  ships, maintaining                                                                    
     the security  of our  harbors and  waterways, including                                                                    
     the Alaska Pipeline terminal in Valdez.                                                                                    
          Missions such as boating safety, that we tried to                                                                     
     pursue in the absence of  a state program, simply can't                                                                    
     compete with maintaining the security  of our state and                                                                    
     nation.     Our  commitment  to  making   our  nation's                                                                    
     waterways  more safe  and secure  means that  we really                                                                    
     need the State of  Alaska to fulfill its responsibility                                                                    
     to boaters in our great  state.  By continuing a proven                                                                    
     program that educates  boaters on ways to  be safer and                                                                    
     more circumspect on  the water, the State  of Alaska is                                                                    
     helping the Coast  Guard free up more  of our resources                                                                    
     to address homeland security issues.                                                                                       
          We still have a lot of work to do together to                                                                         
     make boating a  safer activity in Alaska.   Please join                                                                    
     us   in  continuing   this  effort   by  re-authorizing                                                                    
     Alaska's Boating Safety Program.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WAGONER  asked if  life preservers  from the  Kids Don't                                                               
Float  program   were  taken  from  the   harbors  without  being                                                               
returned.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMANDER  KENDALL  responded  no,   that  the  program  is  well                                                               
respected by  communities throughout  the state.   He  added that                                                               
the program benefits  more than children, as there  are now adult                                                               
lifejackets being used by adults.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON  asked  how long  ago  [Alaska's  Boating  Safety]                                                               
Program was instituted.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARGIS  responded that  the program was  first passed  to the                                                               
states in  1958; however  there was no  funding mechanism,  so in                                                               
1971  Alaska put  forth,  "If you're  going to  have  us do  this                                                               
program, give us money for  it." Congress passed the Federal Safe                                                               
Boating Act in  1971, which provided a funding  mechanism for the                                                               
states.  By  1986, with the adoption of  New Hampshire's program,                                                               
Alaska  was the  one outstanding  state without  a program  until                                                               
2000.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON  asked  how  many   states  not  situated  on  the                                                               
coastline are affected by this program.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARGIS  responded that  every  state  in  the nation  has  a                                                               
boating safety program, including Wyoming, Colorado.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   OLSON   identified   one    obstacle   as   being   the                                                               
impracticality of registration, with  decals and adhesive needing                                                               
to be attached to certain types of watercraft [vessels].                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARGIS  validated this as  a common problem in  certain areas                                                               
because, in addition  to umiaks, decals are  difficult for rubber                                                               
boats like Zodiacs.  The issue  of registering boats is not about                                                               
whether the decals are adhering,  but about identifying boats for                                                               
search and rescue if  necessary.  If a boat is  lost or stolen or                                                               
there is  an emergency, that boat  can be identified.   If decals                                                               
don't stick, people have put the  decal and numbers on a piece of                                                               
plexiglass  and wire-tied  it to  the forward  half of  the boat.                                                               
She reiterated  that registration is  about the safety  aspect of                                                               
identifying boats.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON contended  this was  impractical for  some of  the                                                               
more traditional boats.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COWDERY referred  to Amendment 1, and  indicated that he                                                               
would entertain a motion.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT   moved  Amendment  1  for   the  purpose  of                                                               
discussion [which reads as follows]:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                      23-LS0230\S.2                                                             
                                                         Luckhaupt                                                              
                                                           12/7/04                                                              
                      A M E N D M E N T  1                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                           
     TO:  CSHB 93(FIN)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line 12, following "boat":                                                                                              
Insert "operated on the freshwater  lakes and inland waterways of                                                           
the state that is under 17 feet in length and"                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COWDERY,  noting  there  was no  objection,  asked  for                                                               
further  explanation, acknowledging  that there  was no  one from                                                               
the [Outdoor] Council at the meeting.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT referred  to Amendment  1 and  mentioned that                                                               
this  would exclude  whitewater  kayaks; he  questioned if  these                                                               
were already  excluded because of the  requirement for mechanical                                                               
propulsion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARGIS  explained  that  the   amendment  from  Finance  had                                                               
exempted  all  non-motorized  boats from  registration.    Alaska                                                               
chose, when  the original bill  was passed, to include  all boats                                                               
not  equipped with  machinery propulsion.   This  amendment would                                                               
take out the  section that excludes non-motorized  boats and read                                                               
[page 2, line 12]:  "a  boat that is not equipped with mechanical                                                               
propulsion operated on the freshwater  lakes and inland waterways                                                               
of the  state that is under  17 feet in  length and ... ".   This                                                               
exempts non-motorized  boats that are operated  anywhere inland -                                                               
on fresh  waters and lakes -  and requires any boat  on saltwater                                                               
(such as a sea kayak) to register.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked for the bill sponsor's opinion.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WEYHRAUCH responded  that he thought this  to be a                                                               
policy  issue  for the  Coast  Guard  and  the U.S.  Coast  Guard                                                               
Auxiliary to assess.   He said he desired the  continuance of the                                                               
[Alaska  Boating  Safety Act]  so  the  state would  continue  to                                                               
receive funds,  coverage would continue,  and the  safety aspects                                                               
of the bill  would continue.  He stated he  was neutral and would                                                               
defer to the Coast Guard  regarding whether the amendment dilutes                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COWDERY informed  members that it was not  his intent to                                                               
move HB 93 today.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARGIS indicated  this was consistent with  the Coast Guard's                                                               
requirement that there be no  conflict with federal requirements;                                                               
the Coast Guard requires registration  of every boat in the state                                                               
equipped  with   [mechanical]  propulsion.  This   amendment  was                                                               
proposed  to  address  some  of  the  controversy  pertaining  to                                                               
paddlers and non-paddlers.  The  program is much too important to                                                               
lose, so if  this helps to diffuse that controversy  and keep the                                                               
program going  - and  this refers  to non-motorized  boats paying                                                               
$10 for a  three-year period - "we don't want  to see the program                                                               
sink, so to speak, because of that."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  asked if the  previous battle of "who  has to                                                               
pay  for the  cost and  are  they going  to spread  the cost"  is                                                               
reflected  by this  amendment bringing  some non-motorized  boats                                                               
back into the pool of helping to pay for the cost.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARGIS confirmed this was correct.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WEYHRAUCH  said  there  was also  the  aspect  of                                                               
dealing  with  people with  smaller  boats  in the  Interior  who                                                               
didn't like the idea of having to register them all.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON   said  Alaskans  don't  want   to  cultivate  the                                                               
mentality  of  having  to  register  everything  or  having  "big                                                               
brother looking over  us all the time" and that  people have been                                                               
operating boats  in one  form or  another for  some time  and now                                                               
there is  somebody from  the outside saying,  "Unless you  have a                                                               
number on  the side  of your  boat, I don't  care whether  it was                                                               
there last  week, it's not there  now, and we're going  to assess                                                               
you  a  penalty."   He  asked  what  the  penalties are,  if  the                                                               
amendment is adopted.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARGIS  responded that there  is no penalty for  adopting the                                                               
amendment, and  that the law for  registering boats is not  a new                                                               
regulation, but was part of the 1958 act.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON asked  if the state's benefit  from federal funding                                                               
was about $350,000 per year.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARGIS replied it was currently $450,000.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON  asked  if this  amendment  would  influence  that                                                               
amount, and  received confirmation  this was so.   He  then asked                                                               
about including fresh water and salt water.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARGIS responded  that her understanding of  the fiscal notes                                                               
was  that if  all non-motorized  boats were  eliminated from  the                                                               
bill, there  would be a cost  differential to the state  of about                                                               
$35,000.   Splitting  that in  half, the  state would  make about                                                               
$17,000 with this amendment, whereas  if all paddlers were in, it                                                               
might be $35,000.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON  said  his  question  pertained  more  to  federal                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARGIS  said there  would be  no change  because the  way the                                                               
state chose to do this  particular amendment, non-motorized boats                                                               
don't have to  display numbers in the same manner  because of the                                                               
similar issue  of "trying  to get  it on  their boat";  the state                                                               
doesn't actually receive federal funding for the paddlers.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COWDERY re-iterated  that the  bill wouldn't  be moving                                                               
out of committee  today and invited Senator Olson  to explain his                                                               
amendment to those present.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON moved Amendment 2 [which reads as follows]:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                      23-LS0230\S.1                                                             
                                                         Luckhaupt                                                              
                                                           12/7/04                                                              
                      A M E N D M E N T  2                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
OFFERED IN THE SENATE                          BY SENATOR OLSON                                                                 
     TO:  CSHB 93(FIN)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line 21, following "government":                                                                                        
     Insert ";                                                                                                              
               (6)             a handmade umiaq with a walrus or                                                          
                               sealskin covering"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT objected for purposes of explanation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON explained  that in looking at how  things have been                                                               
done  in  the  last  years,  decades,  and  centuries,  regarding                                                               
traditional transportation in Bush  Alaska, having to comply with                                                               
putting  on some  type  of registration  is  encumbering, and  "I                                                               
don't  think  they  should  be encumbered."    From  a  practical                                                               
standpoint of having  to put decals on [boats], "the  last time I                                                               
was in Diomede  where there are skin boats, nobody  had access to                                                               
decals  with adhesive  out there."    He suggested  that even  if                                                               
decals were available, it would  be against boating safety to put                                                               
wires through the skin  of a watercraft to hang a  decal.  "I see                                                               
the element  of practicality being  done away with by  people who                                                               
are  sitting in  some office  holding onto  the purse  strings of                                                               
almost  half a  million  dollars,  and I've  got  a problem  with                                                               
that."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WEYHRAUCH  said as  an  aside,  if the  amendment                                                               
passes,  it would  be interesting  because it  would be  the only                                                               
bill ever in  the Legislature with "umiak" in the  content of the                                                               
bill.   He asked if the  difficulty was with the  decal itself or                                                               
with attaching it.  He asked if umiaks were made of walrus hide.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON  replied that  most  were  but  that some  of  the                                                               
traditional kayaks were made of sealskin.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WEHYRAUCH  suggested perhaps using  the definition                                                               
of an animal skin umiak.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON repeated  that it doesn't make sense  to poke holes                                                               
in the skin of a boat.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARGIS clarified that the holes  are not put into the hull of                                                               
the  boat, but  are usually  tied around  the seats.   Also,  she                                                               
stated  that  this  pertains to  boats  equipped  with  machinery                                                               
propulsion,  as those  can get  far enough  offshore to  get into                                                               
trouble, and may possibly need to  be rescued.  "We do spend time                                                               
every couple of years, going out  and rescuing people that are in                                                               
those  umiaks  that  are  out   there  walrus-hunting  or  whale-                                                               
hunting."   She said money has  been spent on those  rescues, and                                                               
while there  is no guarantee,  the rationale for  registration is                                                               
to assist in saving people's lives by being able to find them.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON  said with all  due respect, he's been  on searches                                                               
as  well,   and  seeing  those   decals  would  be   yet  another                                                               
difficulty.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEFF JOHNSON,  the Boating Law Administrator  with the state,                                                               
testified  from  Anchorage  that   he  was  available  to  answer                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON asked if Mr. Johnson  would have the effects to the                                                               
fiscal note related to Amendment 1, if it passed.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON referred to DMV for that information.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MARTHA MOORE,  Trauma Registry Coordinator  with the  Division of                                                               
Public Health,  Department of Health and  Social Services (DHSS),                                                               
testified on  behalf of DHSS  in support  of HB 93,  and provided                                                               
the following testimony:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  has  had  the highest  drowning  rates  in  the                                                                    
     country  for many  years.   In  the 20  years prior  to                                                                    
     1999,  the state's  drowning rate  averaged five  and a                                                                    
     half times  the national average.   Over half  of those                                                                    
     deaths  occurred to  non-commercial  boaters.   But  we                                                                    
     finally started to turn the  corner on these really bad                                                                    
     statistics  and in  the last  five years  the rate  has                                                                    
     dropped dramatically.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     From 1998  to 2000  the number  of boating  deaths went                                                                    
     from 38  to 16.   Before the Boating Safety  Office was                                                                    
     established  in  1998,   Alaska  averaged  29  drowning                                                                    
     deaths per year.   Since then we've  averaged 21 deaths                                                                    
     per  year.   Eight  lives  saved  per  year is  a  very                                                                    
     significant number  for a state of  our low population,                                                                    
     and  represents a  much greater  cost savings  when you                                                                    
     consider preventing the  loss of the head  of a family,                                                                    
     a breadwinner, a productive member of society.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The Boating Safety Act is  scheduled to sunset and this                                                                    
     bill  proposes  to extend  that  sunset  date to  July,                                                                    
     2010, so that Alaska would  continue to be eligible for                                                                    
     about  $450,000  per  year in  federal  boating  safety                                                                    
     funds, and through that money,  continue the support of                                                                    
     some very  successful boating  safety programs  such as                                                                    
     Kids  Don't Float  and boater  safety  education.   The                                                                    
     department  feels that  this bill  is a  good deal  for                                                                    
     Alaska both financially and in  making Alaska safer for                                                                    
     boaters and supports passage of this bill.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON referred  to  the comment  of  comparing 1979  and                                                               
1999,  and between  1998  and 2000,  stating  that certainly  any                                                               
boating fatality  is a tragedy, and  asked, "How do we  know that                                                               
this  has been  attributed  to the  program  that's in  question?                                                               
Even more significantly,  how does registering a  boat allow less                                                               
fatalities?"                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MOORE  responded  that  the  point  wasn't  necessarily  the                                                               
registration of  boats -  as people  have been  doing this  for a                                                               
number of decades  - but the critical issue  is the establishment                                                               
of  the Boating  Safety  Office and  the  [Alaska Boating  Safety                                                               
Act].  She said there is no  way to guarantee cause and effect at                                                               
work here,  but she  studies injury and  statistics, and  it does                                                               
seem convincing.  There are  documented saves directly related to                                                               
the Kids Don't Float Program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COWDERY asked  if  she  had any  problem  with the  two                                                               
amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOORE responded that she did not.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
CO-CHAIR COWDERY adjourned the meeting at 2:25 p.m.                                                                             

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